Wednesday, September 7, 2011

Plato, Euthyphro

In Plato's Euthyphro, Socrates and Euthyphro get into a discussion about the very nature of holiness.  Euthyphro is on his way to put charges against his father for the death of another man and Socrates is appalled.  Euthyphro, however, thinks it quite virtuous.  Socrates then asks him roughly the following: what is virtue?  Euthyphro replies basically: 'What I'm about to do.'  Humble man, that Euthyphro.

Perhaps simply to mess with him, Socrates engages the question further.  He arrives at the following question, and the one to which I will examine.  "Are pious things pious because the gods say they are, or do the gods say pious things are pious because they are?"  So, to recap, in regards to holy things- are they holy because they have some sort of innate pious feature or because the gods (or God) has decreed they are holy?  Quite the question.

I wonder, however, is it the right question to ask? Are those the only options?  Is it possible that God, acting as creator, sees uncorrupted creation as good? Seemingly, a creator God would set the rules for existence. So, that being the case, if a Creation simply meets its purpose in "being", is it not good?  It seems that that purpose would be an extension of the very nature of God himself.  And what happens if we move back and forth between poly- and mono- theism.  Would the answer remain the same?  What if the question was formulated in Trinitarian terms?  All that to say this: I'm not so sure that the question is logically the best options for explaining the piety of things.

But I digress.
Socrates seems to think that God's love results in the piety of the thing. Euthyphro otherwise thinks that the love of God explains the piety (i.e. the piety is a feature of the thing itself). Neither can be right.  After all, one would exalt the good of the object to a point that it demands the gods love, and the other does not explain why the gods love something.  It is somewhat circular.
This is exactly what Socrates means when he says,
And are you not saying that what is loved of the gods is holy; and is not this the same as what is dear to them-do you see? 
We are left without an answer.  It seems to me that questions that have no answers are often simply bad questions.

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